goldenheartedrose:

blamequi:

goldenheartedrose:

blamequi:

goldenheartedrose:

girljanitor:

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wrcsolace:

blamequi:

See, you can do it without sounding like a total asshole. We’ve all got a copy of the Jim Sinclair one at work, which probably comes as a surprise to you as we’re so ignorant and below your high-brow literature and whatnot. I’ll have a read of the other 2 and if they help then that’s fantastic, but at the minute I can’t promise you shit.

I mean but how many times can one person refer to someone as an asshole and in the same breath ask to be treated nicely?????????
like who what how?

Someone who’s trained autistic children to obey no matter how they treat them.
So when us autistic grownups tell them they’re wrong, or criticize them at all, OR DARE TO OPEN OUR FUCKING MOUTHS, the mix of abuse and condescension is thick like the smell of shit.I’m so fucking enraged right now, you don’t even know. Do you have ANY IDEA how much power this person has over autistic people?
AND LOOK AT HOW THEY’RE TREATING US.
THIS IS WHAT THESE PEOPLE DO.
They say shit like “calm it” and EXPECT TO BE OBEYED EVEN ONLINE.

Precisely.  It is really NOT OKAY IN ANY WAY.
And we’re the ones in the wrong?
Nooooope.  Fuck off. Seriously.  
Go ahead.  Go look at the very first reblog I made.  Tell me what I said there that was wrong.  It was critical, yes.  It was. Because the two sources above talk about being autistic from an allistic standpoint, and they get a lot of things wrong. But then, blamequi essentially told me to “calm down” like I was supposed to obey them.  NOPE.  Sorry.  Doesn’t work like that.  You’ve just proven what a gigantic piece of utter SHIT you are and have put yourself in the category of gaslighting allistic people who made me feel like I was the crazy one for being forced to obey whatever you told me.  
Sorry if that makes you mad, but right now, people who behave like that? They’re the enemy.  They are not an ally, regardless of what they SAY.  Their behavior toward us speaks VOLUMES.

This is absolutely insane. I told you to “calm down” defensively as I would to anybody whose message I perceived to be hostile and at the time I had no idea you or your children were autistic - I found that out a few posts on, once I’d spoken to you more than once. My further attitude is to do with the manner in which you spoke to me, nothing more. It is not and has never been an attack against autistic people. This isn’t the same bizarre ‘power struggle’ between ‘autistic and allistic’ as you’ve made it out to be and I have never seen it as that. I have never once mentioned or intended to imply that I am ‘better’ than you because that isn’t the case between anyone in this conversation.
“See, you can do it without being a total asshole.” This right here is condescending, I can admit that, and I realised that after I’d posted it, but by that time it had snowballed, of course, and you’d all input your reactions. The bit you’ll believe least of all here is that I didn’t say that because you were autistic, at all. That has nothing to do with who is or is not autistic. I know that at some point along in your life you say have been treated unfairly because you are autistic, but it doesn’t mean I am treating you the same way because of it. I am treating you that way because you talked to me like an asshole. I treated you the same way I would treat any other person who talked to me like that. The same way you are talking to me because I’m talking to you like that. You are not talking to me like that because I’m ‘allistic’, you’re talking to me like that because I’m talking to you like an asshole, too. That, as I see it, is what this is. 

You don’t see it as a power struggle because you are at the top.  Just like Mitt Romney thinks that $250,000 is “middle class” because he’s at the top of the power dynamic, you believe that there’s no power struggle here because you don’t actually have to fight it.  
Please, read the reblogs between girljanitor and I. Learn something.
I cannot FATHOM how you could read my first reblog and think that I was hostile.  
It takes two seconds to click to my page and read my FAQs.  Ignorance isn’t really an excuse.  

If we want to get into the logistics of power struggles here, while your Mitt Romney analogy makes sense for someone who’s at the top, I don’t see it like that because frankly, if anything - I would be at the bottom, what with loads of you jumping on the bandwagon. I know it’s not number that dictates power, but again, that is how it seems under these circumstances (i.e. the conversation between you and I). Power here has nothing to do with who is or is not autistic.
Even if you think your first comment didn’t sound hostile, that is what it came across as to me. It’s about perception. And no, ignorance is not an excuse, but that is what happened and that’s about it really.

You see yourself at the bottom? Are you kidding? Because autistic people are calling you out on your shit? Because we’re explaining that listening to what we have to say matters, and that people in a position of power, like you, have hurt us in various ways (which you can read in the reblogs, though I doubt you will).  ALLISTIC PEOPLE ARE NOT OPPRESSED FOR BEING ALLISTIC.  

YES!!!! YES!!!! HERE WE HAVE IT!!!!
WE’RE BULLYING THE ALLISTIC!!!!
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
POOR LITTLE ALLISTIC CAREGIVERS!!!!!!!!
THEY’RE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE POWER DYNAMICS BETWEEN AUTISTIC PEOPLE AND ALLISTIC CAREGIVERS!
ALLISTIC BULLY 4 LIFE

goldenheartedrose:

blamequi:

goldenheartedrose:

blamequi:

goldenheartedrose:

girljanitor:

[snipped for length]

wrcsolace:

blamequi:

See, you can do it without sounding like a total asshole. We’ve all got a copy of the Jim Sinclair one at work, which probably comes as a surprise to you as we’re so ignorant and below your high-brow literature and whatnot. I’ll have a read of the other 2 and if they help then that’s fantastic, but at the minute I can’t promise you shit.

I mean but how many times can one person refer to someone as an asshole and in the same breath ask to be treated nicely?????????

like who what how?

Someone who’s trained autistic children to obey no matter how they treat them.

So when us autistic grownups tell them they’re wrong, or criticize them at all, OR DARE TO OPEN OUR FUCKING MOUTHS, the mix of abuse and condescension is thick like the smell of shit.I’m so fucking enraged right now, you don’t even know. Do you have ANY IDEA how much power this person has over autistic people?

AND LOOK AT HOW THEY’RE TREATING US.

THIS IS WHAT THESE PEOPLE DO.

They say shit like “calm it” and EXPECT TO BE OBEYED EVEN ONLINE.

Precisely.  It is really NOT OKAY IN ANY WAY.

And we’re the ones in the wrong?

Nooooope.  Fuck off. Seriously.  

Go ahead.  Go look at the very first reblog I made.  Tell me what I said there that was wrong.  It was critical, yes.  It was. Because the two sources above talk about being autistic from an allistic standpoint, and they get a lot of things wrong. But then, blamequi essentially told me to “calm down” like I was supposed to obey them.  NOPE.  Sorry.  Doesn’t work like that.  You’ve just proven what a gigantic piece of utter SHIT you are and have put yourself in the category of gaslighting allistic people who made me feel like I was the crazy one for being forced to obey whatever you told me.  

Sorry if that makes you mad, but right now, people who behave like that? They’re the enemy.  They are not an ally, regardless of what they SAY.  Their behavior toward us speaks VOLUMES.

This is absolutely insane. I told you to “calm down” defensively as I would to anybody whose message I perceived to be hostile and at the time I had no idea you or your children were autistic - I found that out a few posts on, once I’d spoken to you more than once. My further attitude is to do with the manner in which you spoke to me, nothing more. It is not and has never been an attack against autistic people. This isn’t the same bizarre ‘power struggle’ between ‘autistic and allistic’ as you’ve made it out to be and I have never seen it as that. I have never once mentioned or intended to imply that I am ‘better’ than you because that isn’t the case between anyone in this conversation.

“See, you can do it without being a total asshole.” This right here is condescending, I can admit that, and I realised that after I’d posted it, but by that time it had snowballed, of course, and you’d all input your reactions. The bit you’ll believe least of all here is that I didn’t say that because you were autistic, at all. That has nothing to do with who is or is not autistic. I know that at some point along in your life you say have been treated unfairly because you are autistic, but it doesn’t mean I am treating you the same way because of it. I am treating you that way because you talked to me like an asshole. I treated you the same way I would treat any other person who talked to me like that. The same way you are talking to me because I’m talking to you like that. You are not talking to me like that because I’m ‘allistic’, you’re talking to me like that because I’m talking to you like an asshole, too. That, as I see it, is what this is. 

You don’t see it as a power struggle because you are at the top.  Just like Mitt Romney thinks that $250,000 is “middle class” because he’s at the top of the power dynamic, you believe that there’s no power struggle here because you don’t actually have to fight it.  

Please, read the reblogs between girljanitor and I. Learn something.

I cannot FATHOM how you could read my first reblog and think that I was hostile.  

It takes two seconds to click to my page and read my FAQs.  Ignorance isn’t really an excuse.  

If we want to get into the logistics of power struggles here, while your Mitt Romney analogy makes sense for someone who’s at the top, I don’t see it like that because frankly, if anything - I would be at the bottom, what with loads of you jumping on the bandwagon. I know it’s not number that dictates power, but again, that is how it seems under these circumstances (i.e. the conversation between you and I). Power here has nothing to do with who is or is not autistic.

Even if you think your first comment didn’t sound hostile, that is what it came across as to me. It’s about perception. And no, ignorance is not an excuse, but that is what happened and that’s about it really.

You see yourself at the bottom? Are you kidding? Because autistic people are calling you out on your shit? Because we’re explaining that listening to what we have to say matters, and that people in a position of power, like you, have hurt us in various ways (which you can read in the reblogs, though I doubt you will).  ALLISTIC PEOPLE ARE NOT OPPRESSED FOR BEING ALLISTIC.  

YES!!!! YES!!!! HERE WE HAVE IT!!!!

WE’RE BULLYING THE ALLISTIC!!!!

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

POOR LITTLE ALLISTIC CAREGIVERS!!!!!!!!

THEY’RE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE POWER DYNAMICS BETWEEN AUTISTIC PEOPLE AND ALLISTIC CAREGIVERS!

ALLISTIC BULLY 4 LIFE

(Source: trascendjamo)