gayngster:

goldenheartedrose:

gayngster:

goldenheartedrose:

infinitydreamer:

goldenheartedrose:

puhcific:

awesomewriternerdfighter:

showmeyourassbutt:

just-a-skinny-boy:

edgegunnerfan:

goldenheartedrose:

sanityscraps:

goldenheartedrose:

tee-m-kris:

lindsayface47:

This is the best thing I’ve seen this week.

I love how many notes this has gotten. 
Rose, you are magnificent. 

<3
Frankly, I’m baffled.  I want to yell “where are you all coming from???”  
Because my anti-A$ post has jumped about 500 notes as well in the past 72 hours or so.

“ease the burden of people and families living with autism”


Bringing this back again.

This is incredible. Thank you for posting this. This damn near made me cry

As someone with an autism spectrum disorder, this disgusts me so much I just want to throw up.
This needs to stop.

My little brother has autism and holy god damn. Burden? Disease? Wow.

How the fuck is autism a burden  Well I know how many can view it that way but I like myself (asperger syndrome) just the way I am. I am able to work well in school and achieve greatly, I was always a fast learner and though I may no get all those “social cues” I can get sarcasm (most of the time) and sarcasm helps with sociableness  though honestly I hate the whole idea of popularity, I am happy, I may be weird and random and not really popular but who gives a fuck about popularity? I say being popular isn’t all it sounds like, and I like my autistic self much more than all of those people at my school who seem to never really be able to show their real selves to others. Autism may be hard on some families but instead of trying to cure it people should cope with it and make adjustments for the person in question, because “curing” a person takes away who they are, a part of them, their true self, and leaves them without a part of themselves that could really make a difference. My family is coping just fine with me around, they use sarcasm heavily to help me adjust to how others are and they point out what I do that is a bit abnormal, so I adjust but I keep who I am. My grandma tried to give me pills to “cure” my aspergers but after about a week I got rid of them because thy made me feel weird, fake, not who I really am, as if I was losing who I was, so I told my parents and they nodded and understood. Asperger Syndrome runs in my families genetics and has for quite a long time, so I am not really an oddball out, half of my family has dyslexia as well, we know how to deal with disabilities in this household, and others should be taught that instead of given magic pills to make the “problem” disappear.

THIS IS AMAZING. I hope they sent an apology letter.

Hahahahahahahaahaha
Yeah nope.
Here, have some more info on what assholes they are:
http://goldenheartedrose.tumblr.com/anti-autismspeaks

Honestly, your comments made reading that letter hilarious. Without them, I probably would’ve just gotten more and more upset and frustrated with these people. Like mentioned above, Autistic people are not a burden. 
Sure, if you’re someone who has never dealt with someone who has a…for lack of a better word ‘disability’ (Which it isn’t because they are not disabled, and there for it is sad that we label them as such.) it can be a little hard. But when you are spending every moment of your life with that child, you learn how to deal with it, and take care of them properly so that they grow up and lead a happy, healthy life.
Autism is not a disease. It is something that happens naturally, because it is genetic. Ie; someone in the family was carrying it. Be it the mother or father. No one is to blame, and the blame shouldn’t be placed on anyone. So many people think that people with Autism are dumb, but they’re not. My friend proved that to me with her little cousin, who is now 6 or 7 years old, and is multi-lingual. She speaks English (albeit, a little broken, but we understand her just fine, and she’s seeing a speech therapist to help), ASL and French. I’m 20 years old and I don’t speak that many languages! Yeah, I know English, its my mother tongue. I know ASL because I’m partially deaf, and it helps me to communicate sometimes. (Especially in class with friends LOL). I live in Canada, where our two languages are English and French, and I can’t even speak French. What’s that saying about her? 
She’s a fucking Genius that’s what! The only reason people label them as ‘stupid’ or ‘dumb’ is because of a) how they look, b) how they act and c) their grades. I know so many autistic people who are smarter than fuck, but their grades don’t reflect that because they can’t figure out how to word what is going through their head, or they can’t get it onto paper, or tests stress them out. I know one girl who has memory like a sponge. She just soaks everything up, but do you think the teachers treated her how she deserved to be treated? No. Instead she was sent into class to colour in a colouring book, and do simple math, and whatever else the school wanted her to do so that she could graduate. She understood the math I was doing, even though she wasn’t doing it! The teachers wouldn’t let her draw and paint the way she wanted because “its too hard for her.” Really?
I think people who are ignorant to these wonderful, brilliant, talented people need to fuck off and stop reproducing, and instead treat these people how they deserve to be treated, so that they can become whatever they damned well wish to be, and actually get to live the happy life that they dream of!

They aren’t my comments. The person who runs Rethinking Autism on Facebook is the person who corrected the letter.
I am Autistic. I am also disabled and neither is a dirty word. Yes, there are some autistic folks who feel like their autism isn’t a disability. And it is also an identity and I’m not ashamed of that. But it is disabling (for me).

Although I don’t agree that it’s a ‘disease’, I think it can be a burden. I know a few families who can’t even bring their autistic sons and daughters to a play, because they don’t realize that they need to be quiet and listen. It can be a burden.

Oh no! It’s such a burden! Parents don’t teach their kids how to behave in public (and yes, autistic kids need to be taught just like NT kids, and assuming that they can’t learn is the opposite of presuming competence) and they complain that they can’t *gasp* do things that they used to be able to do before kids? Come the fuck on. Parenting is hard work, regardless. If you think parenting an autistic child is a burden, don’t become a parent, because there’s no chance you won’t be an abusive shit.

Yes, parenting is a burden regardless. But parenting an autistic kid can also be harder (in some cases).

Because of people like you, yeah. congratulations! YOU’RE THE FUCKING PROBLEM! YOU FUCKING DICKSTAIN.
IN B4 BULLYING THE ALLISTICS
#YOUR SHITTY “OPINIONS” LEADS TO THE ABUSE AND MURDER OF AUTISTIC PEOPLE LIKE ME
#YOU’RE MAKING MY LIFE HARDER RIGHT NOW

gayngster:

goldenheartedrose:

gayngster:

goldenheartedrose:

infinitydreamer:

goldenheartedrose:

puhcific:

awesomewriternerdfighter:

showmeyourassbutt:

just-a-skinny-boy:

edgegunnerfan:

goldenheartedrose:

sanityscraps:

goldenheartedrose:

tee-m-kris:

lindsayface47:

This is the best thing I’ve seen this week.

I love how many notes this has gotten. 

Rose, you are magnificent. 

<3

Frankly, I’m baffled.  I want to yell “where are you all coming from???”  

Because my anti-A$ post has jumped about 500 notes as well in the past 72 hours or so.

“ease the burden of people and families living with autism”

image

Bringing this back again.

This is incredible. Thank you for posting this. This damn near made me cry

As someone with an autism spectrum disorder, this disgusts me so much I just want to throw up.

This needs to stop.

My little brother has autism and holy god damn. Burden? Disease? Wow.

How the fuck is autism a burden  Well I know how many can view it that way but I like myself (asperger syndrome) just the way I am. I am able to work well in school and achieve greatly, I was always a fast learner and though I may no get all those “social cues” I can get sarcasm (most of the time) and sarcasm helps with sociableness  though honestly I hate the whole idea of popularity, I am happy, I may be weird and random and not really popular but who gives a fuck about popularity? I say being popular isn’t all it sounds like, and I like my autistic self much more than all of those people at my school who seem to never really be able to show their real selves to others. Autism may be hard on some families but instead of trying to cure it people should cope with it and make adjustments for the person in question, because “curing” a person takes away who they are, a part of them, their true self, and leaves them without a part of themselves that could really make a difference. My family is coping just fine with me around, they use sarcasm heavily to help me adjust to how others are and they point out what I do that is a bit abnormal, so I adjust but I keep who I am. My grandma tried to give me pills to “cure” my aspergers but after about a week I got rid of them because thy made me feel weird, fake, not who I really am, as if I was losing who I was, so I told my parents and they nodded and understood. Asperger Syndrome runs in my families genetics and has for quite a long time, so I am not really an oddball out, half of my family has dyslexia as well, we know how to deal with disabilities in this household, and others should be taught that instead of given magic pills to make the “problem” disappear.

THIS IS AMAZING. I hope they sent an apology letter.

Hahahahahahahaahaha

Yeah nope.

Here, have some more info on what assholes they are:

http://goldenheartedrose.tumblr.com/anti-autismspeaks

Honestly, your comments made reading that letter hilarious. Without them, I probably would’ve just gotten more and more upset and frustrated with these people. Like mentioned above, Autistic people are not a burden. 

Sure, if you’re someone who has never dealt with someone who has a…for lack of a better word ‘disability’ (Which it isn’t because they are not disabled, and there for it is sad that we label them as such.) it can be a little hard. But when you are spending every moment of your life with that child, you learn how to deal with it, and take care of them properly so that they grow up and lead a happy, healthy life.

Autism is not a disease. It is something that happens naturally, because it is genetic. Ie; someone in the family was carrying it. Be it the mother or father. No one is to blame, and the blame shouldn’t be placed on anyone. So many people think that people with Autism are dumb, but they’re not. My friend proved that to me with her little cousin, who is now 6 or 7 years old, and is multi-lingual. She speaks English (albeit, a little broken, but we understand her just fine, and she’s seeing a speech therapist to help), ASL and French. I’m 20 years old and I don’t speak that many languages! Yeah, I know English, its my mother tongue. I know ASL because I’m partially deaf, and it helps me to communicate sometimes. (Especially in class with friends LOL). I live in Canada, where our two languages are English and French, and I can’t even speak French. What’s that saying about her? 

She’s a fucking Genius that’s what! The only reason people label them as ‘stupid’ or ‘dumb’ is because of a) how they look, b) how they act and c) their grades. I know so many autistic people who are smarter than fuck, but their grades don’t reflect that because they can’t figure out how to word what is going through their head, or they can’t get it onto paper, or tests stress them out. I know one girl who has memory like a sponge. She just soaks everything up, but do you think the teachers treated her how she deserved to be treated? No. Instead she was sent into class to colour in a colouring book, and do simple math, and whatever else the school wanted her to do so that she could graduate. She understood the math I was doing, even though she wasn’t doing it! The teachers wouldn’t let her draw and paint the way she wanted because “its too hard for her.” Really?

I think people who are ignorant to these wonderful, brilliant, talented people need to fuck off and stop reproducing, and instead treat these people how they deserve to be treated, so that they can become whatever they damned well wish to be, and actually get to live the happy life that they dream of!

They aren’t my comments. The person who runs Rethinking Autism on Facebook is the person who corrected the letter.

I am Autistic. I am also disabled and neither is a dirty word. Yes, there are some autistic folks who feel like their autism isn’t a disability. And it is also an identity and I’m not ashamed of that. But it is disabling (for me).

Although I don’t agree that it’s a ‘disease’, I think it can be a burden. I know a few families who can’t even bring their autistic sons and daughters to a play, because they don’t realize that they need to be quiet and listen. It can be a burden.

Oh no! It’s such a burden! Parents don’t teach their kids how to behave in public (and yes, autistic kids need to be taught just like NT kids, and assuming that they can’t learn is the opposite of presuming competence) and they complain that they can’t *gasp* do things that they used to be able to do before kids? Come the fuck on. Parenting is hard work, regardless. If you think parenting an autistic child is a burden, don’t become a parent, because there’s no chance you won’t be an abusive shit.

Yes, parenting is a burden regardless. But parenting an autistic kid can also be harder (in some cases).

Because of people like you, yeah. congratulations! YOU’RE THE FUCKING PROBLEM! YOU FUCKING DICKSTAIN.

IN B4 BULLYING THE ALLISTICS

#YOUR SHITTY “OPINIONS” LEADS TO THE ABUSE AND MURDER OF AUTISTIC PEOPLE LIKE ME

#YOU’RE MAKING MY LIFE HARDER RIGHT NOW

Every once in a while I remember with bemusement that there are people who think they have a legitimate beef with me, and their proof that I am a big, mean bully is that I blog too fast.

I blog too fast.

starsketcher:

starsketcher:

boobymonster:

Spreading the opinion that AS is corrupt is all fine and good but if you make those that support it/don’t know/have differing opinions than you feel like shit for that reason is not.

I hate how those people are stalking the Autism Speaks sponsored…

I’M ONLY A 15 YEAR OLD GIRL IN HIGH SCHOOL!!!

I am neither against or for the organization, so can you idiot protestors please stop getting your panties in a twist over a gift my mother bought me?!

You are all worse than PETA & the one baptist church that hate gays if you all think that bullying people for buying a blue Build-a-Bear while unknowingly supporting an “evil” organization is the equivalent to murdering someone!!

I’m done reading all your god damn links & will resort to reporting all you protestors if I get one more comment on my posts since I thought this shit was over Saturday night…

There is seriously so much wrong with this post I don’t even know where to start.

Since when is spreading information the equivalent of bullying? Your overdeveloped sense of persecution is quite offputting, and since when is being a teenager an excuse for WILLFUL ignorance (“I’m done reading your links!)?

But calling autistic people “idiots" it totes okay. got it.

So, Autistic people who say “stop spreading lies about us and giving money to organizations that abuse us” are WORSE THAN THE WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH?

Who the fuck’s a protestor? THIS ISN’T EVEN YOUR POST. As a matter of fact, I do not know what the fuck you’re talking about for most of this.

WHY THE FUCK SHOULD I CARE ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS WHEN YOU DON’T CARE ABOUT SHIT THAT GETS PEOPLE LIKE ME KILLED?

(Source: kujikyawas)

raven4ever:

autism-and-aspergers-advice:

I blacked out the names, because I’m not a dick, and I don’t want people to hate her. I just felt like a made a number of extremely strong points on a lot of issues concerning Autism. I’m exceedingly proud of myself, honestly. Usually I get emotionally into arguments, but this time I was calm and killed her with her own words — I never insulted her even though she said some personal attacks on me. For the record, I do not believe she is entirely wrong, she had some good points also. I just think isn’t thinking it all the way through.

And please reblog if you agree with me, or even if you don’t. I think there is a vast amount important information in this argument  Especially being able to see both sides, and many different ways of looking at the issue. I’d really appreciate it. Please and thank you. People could really learn a thing or two and change their perspective just from reading this.

As someone who had participated in the Cure Autism Now triathlon for YEARS, and who had participated with my father and Autistic brother, I honestly don’t see anything wrong with the Autism Speaks campaign.

Maybe I’m ignorant.  I still feel however like I did the right thing by participating in fundraising events with Autism Speaks.  Now, Autism Speaks is not the ONLY Autism fundraising I take part in.  However, my family is not ignorant about organizations, particularly ones which affect my brother.  We all love my brother like no other, and I honestly don’t think we would support an organization which only seeks to gain fame from the money.  And, to an extent, because we participated in these fundraising events, awareness for Autism HAS increased, at least within my area.  It’s not awareness in an insulting way from how I view it.  It’s awareness as in understanding.

I’m pretty sure you know a lot more about the organization than I do.  Besides, it’s been at least 4 years since the last time I participated in one of their events.  I just never thought that they were doing anything wrong.  I felt that all the money we raised was going towards a good cause, and I felt that participating in the activities with my brother was one of the best things we could have done as a family.

I honestly, I’m as someone, Me, I’m, I did the right thing, I take part, I honestly don’t think, my area. How I view it, I do, the last time I participated, I just NEVER THOUGHT, I felt, I felt, the most important thing, I felt.

-Allistic Siblings.

See also:

Me me me me! Me, me me me me.

Oh hey look, another fucking allistic sibling deciding they’re the expert of what’s best for Autistics, and making THE ENTIRE THING ABOUT THEM AND THEIR FEELINGS!

IT MUST BE A DAY THAT ENDS IN “Y”

(Source: )

biyuti replied to your post: have i mentioned today that i wish the siblings of autistic people would just shut up

that was seriously one of the worst things i’ve read today “any amount of self awareness = not autistic” as if that makes any fucking sense.

BUT ALLISTIC SIBLINGS ARE EXPERTS REMEMBER

THEY KNOW EVERYTHING WAY MORE THAN US POOR, PROBLEMATIC, EXTREME-PERSONALITY-HAVING AND HAPLESSLY UNAWARE ACTUALLY AUTISTIC PEOPLE

IN B4 BULLYING THE ALLISTICS

today, allistic siblings of autistic people would like me to know

  • that is i notice the “most extreme parts of my personality”, i’m not autistic
  • and that if i do notice, i’ll never understand that it’s “a problem”
  • and that if i do, i’ll never understand WHY
  • and if I do, I’m not autistic

thanks, allistic siblings. How would I ever have managed to make it to being a fucking disability advocate without running uphill into the avalanche of bullshit you’ve been throwing since autism has existed and placed family and caretakers ABOVE the voices of autistic people forever.

because you’re the  “Experts”

and if i can prove you wrong I’m not really autistic.

goldenheartedrose:

blamequi:

goldenheartedrose:

blamequi:

goldenheartedrose:

girljanitor:

[snipped for length]
wrcsolace:

blamequi:

See, you can do it without sounding like a total asshole. We’ve all got a copy of the Jim Sinclair one at work, which probably comes as a surprise to you as we’re so ignorant and below your high-brow literature and whatnot. I’ll have a read of the other 2 and if they help then that’s fantastic, but at the minute I can’t promise you shit.

I mean but how many times can one person refer to someone as an asshole and in the same breath ask to be treated nicely?????????
like who what how?

Someone who’s trained autistic children to obey no matter how they treat them.
So when us autistic grownups tell them they’re wrong, or criticize them at all, OR DARE TO OPEN OUR FUCKING MOUTHS, the mix of abuse and condescension is thick like the smell of shit.I’m so fucking enraged right now, you don’t even know. Do you have ANY IDEA how much power this person has over autistic people?
AND LOOK AT HOW THEY’RE TREATING US.
THIS IS WHAT THESE PEOPLE DO.
They say shit like “calm it” and EXPECT TO BE OBEYED EVEN ONLINE.

Precisely.  It is really NOT OKAY IN ANY WAY.
And we’re the ones in the wrong?
Nooooope.  Fuck off. Seriously.  
Go ahead.  Go look at the very first reblog I made.  Tell me what I said there that was wrong.  It was critical, yes.  It was. Because the two sources above talk about being autistic from an allistic standpoint, and they get a lot of things wrong. But then, blamequi essentially told me to “calm down” like I was supposed to obey them.  NOPE.  Sorry.  Doesn’t work like that.  You’ve just proven what a gigantic piece of utter SHIT you are and have put yourself in the category of gaslighting allistic people who made me feel like I was the crazy one for being forced to obey whatever you told me.  
Sorry if that makes you mad, but right now, people who behave like that? They’re the enemy.  They are not an ally, regardless of what they SAY.  Their behavior toward us speaks VOLUMES.

This is absolutely insane. I told you to “calm down” defensively as I would to anybody whose message I perceived to be hostile and at the time I had no idea you or your children were autistic - I found that out a few posts on, once I’d spoken to you more than once. My further attitude is to do with the manner in which you spoke to me, nothing more. It is not and has never been an attack against autistic people. This isn’t the same bizarre ‘power struggle’ between ‘autistic and allistic’ as you’ve made it out to be and I have never seen it as that. I have never once mentioned or intended to imply that I am ‘better’ than you because that isn’t the case between anyone in this conversation.
“See, you can do it without being a total asshole.” This right here is condescending, I can admit that, and I realised that after I’d posted it, but by that time it had snowballed, of course, and you’d all input your reactions. The bit you’ll believe least of all here is that I didn’t say that because you were autistic, at all. That has nothing to do with who is or is not autistic. I know that at some point along in your life you say have been treated unfairly because you are autistic, but it doesn’t mean I am treating you the same way because of it. I am treating you that way because you talked to me like an asshole. I treated you the same way I would treat any other person who talked to me like that. The same way you are talking to me because I’m talking to you like that. You are not talking to me like that because I’m ‘allistic’, you’re talking to me like that because I’m talking to you like an asshole, too. That, as I see it, is what this is. 

You don’t see it as a power struggle because you are at the top.  Just like Mitt Romney thinks that $250,000 is “middle class” because he’s at the top of the power dynamic, you believe that there’s no power struggle here because you don’t actually have to fight it.  
Please, read the reblogs between girljanitor and I. Learn something.
I cannot FATHOM how you could read my first reblog and think that I was hostile.  
It takes two seconds to click to my page and read my FAQs.  Ignorance isn’t really an excuse.  

If we want to get into the logistics of power struggles here, while your Mitt Romney analogy makes sense for someone who’s at the top, I don’t see it like that because frankly, if anything - I would be at the bottom, what with loads of you jumping on the bandwagon. I know it’s not number that dictates power, but again, that is how it seems under these circumstances (i.e. the conversation between you and I). Power here has nothing to do with who is or is not autistic.
Even if you think your first comment didn’t sound hostile, that is what it came across as to me. It’s about perception. And no, ignorance is not an excuse, but that is what happened and that’s about it really.

You see yourself at the bottom? Are you kidding? Because autistic people are calling you out on your shit? Because we’re explaining that listening to what we have to say matters, and that people in a position of power, like you, have hurt us in various ways (which you can read in the reblogs, though I doubt you will).  ALLISTIC PEOPLE ARE NOT OPPRESSED FOR BEING ALLISTIC.  

YES!!!! YES!!!! HERE WE HAVE IT!!!!
WE&#8217;RE BULLYING THE ALLISTIC!!!!
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
POOR LITTLE ALLISTIC CAREGIVERS!!!!!!!!
THEY&#8217;RE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE POWER DYNAMICS BETWEEN AUTISTIC PEOPLE AND ALLISTIC CAREGIVERS!
ALLISTIC BULLY 4 LIFE

goldenheartedrose:

blamequi:

goldenheartedrose:

blamequi:

goldenheartedrose:

girljanitor:

[snipped for length]

wrcsolace:

blamequi:

See, you can do it without sounding like a total asshole. We’ve all got a copy of the Jim Sinclair one at work, which probably comes as a surprise to you as we’re so ignorant and below your high-brow literature and whatnot. I’ll have a read of the other 2 and if they help then that’s fantastic, but at the minute I can’t promise you shit.

I mean but how many times can one person refer to someone as an asshole and in the same breath ask to be treated nicely?????????

like who what how?

Someone who’s trained autistic children to obey no matter how they treat them.

So when us autistic grownups tell them they’re wrong, or criticize them at all, OR DARE TO OPEN OUR FUCKING MOUTHS, the mix of abuse and condescension is thick like the smell of shit.I’m so fucking enraged right now, you don’t even know. Do you have ANY IDEA how much power this person has over autistic people?

AND LOOK AT HOW THEY’RE TREATING US.

THIS IS WHAT THESE PEOPLE DO.

They say shit like “calm it” and EXPECT TO BE OBEYED EVEN ONLINE.

Precisely.  It is really NOT OKAY IN ANY WAY.

And we’re the ones in the wrong?

Nooooope.  Fuck off. Seriously.  

Go ahead.  Go look at the very first reblog I made.  Tell me what I said there that was wrong.  It was critical, yes.  It was. Because the two sources above talk about being autistic from an allistic standpoint, and they get a lot of things wrong. But then, blamequi essentially told me to “calm down” like I was supposed to obey them.  NOPE.  Sorry.  Doesn’t work like that.  You’ve just proven what a gigantic piece of utter SHIT you are and have put yourself in the category of gaslighting allistic people who made me feel like I was the crazy one for being forced to obey whatever you told me.  

Sorry if that makes you mad, but right now, people who behave like that? They’re the enemy.  They are not an ally, regardless of what they SAY.  Their behavior toward us speaks VOLUMES.

This is absolutely insane. I told you to “calm down” defensively as I would to anybody whose message I perceived to be hostile and at the time I had no idea you or your children were autistic - I found that out a few posts on, once I’d spoken to you more than once. My further attitude is to do with the manner in which you spoke to me, nothing more. It is not and has never been an attack against autistic people. This isn’t the same bizarre ‘power struggle’ between ‘autistic and allistic’ as you’ve made it out to be and I have never seen it as that. I have never once mentioned or intended to imply that I am ‘better’ than you because that isn’t the case between anyone in this conversation.

“See, you can do it without being a total asshole.” This right here is condescending, I can admit that, and I realised that after I’d posted it, but by that time it had snowballed, of course, and you’d all input your reactions. The bit you’ll believe least of all here is that I didn’t say that because you were autistic, at all. That has nothing to do with who is or is not autistic. I know that at some point along in your life you say have been treated unfairly because you are autistic, but it doesn’t mean I am treating you the same way because of it. I am treating you that way because you talked to me like an asshole. I treated you the same way I would treat any other person who talked to me like that. The same way you are talking to me because I’m talking to you like that. You are not talking to me like that because I’m ‘allistic’, you’re talking to me like that because I’m talking to you like an asshole, too. That, as I see it, is what this is. 

You don’t see it as a power struggle because you are at the top.  Just like Mitt Romney thinks that $250,000 is “middle class” because he’s at the top of the power dynamic, you believe that there’s no power struggle here because you don’t actually have to fight it.  

Please, read the reblogs between girljanitor and I. Learn something.

I cannot FATHOM how you could read my first reblog and think that I was hostile.  

It takes two seconds to click to my page and read my FAQs.  Ignorance isn’t really an excuse.  

If we want to get into the logistics of power struggles here, while your Mitt Romney analogy makes sense for someone who’s at the top, I don’t see it like that because frankly, if anything - I would be at the bottom, what with loads of you jumping on the bandwagon. I know it’s not number that dictates power, but again, that is how it seems under these circumstances (i.e. the conversation between you and I). Power here has nothing to do with who is or is not autistic.

Even if you think your first comment didn’t sound hostile, that is what it came across as to me. It’s about perception. And no, ignorance is not an excuse, but that is what happened and that’s about it really.

You see yourself at the bottom? Are you kidding? Because autistic people are calling you out on your shit? Because we’re explaining that listening to what we have to say matters, and that people in a position of power, like you, have hurt us in various ways (which you can read in the reblogs, though I doubt you will).  ALLISTIC PEOPLE ARE NOT OPPRESSED FOR BEING ALLISTIC.  

YES!!!! YES!!!! HERE WE HAVE IT!!!!

WE’RE BULLYING THE ALLISTIC!!!!

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

POOR LITTLE ALLISTIC CAREGIVERS!!!!!!!!

THEY’RE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE POWER DYNAMICS BETWEEN AUTISTIC PEOPLE AND ALLISTIC CAREGIVERS!

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(Source: trascendjamo)

blamequi:

goldenheartedrose:

blamequi:

goldenheartedrose:

blamequi:

goldenheartedrose:

blamequi:

josiahd:

goldenheartedrose:

blamequi:

If you are involved with Autism in any way, you NEED these. These have become my bibles.

Neither was written by an autistic person.
I doubt any autistic people were actually involved in the publication of either.
If you want a REAL guide that is actually helpful to autistic people? Read The Thinking Person’s Guide to Autism.  Or really anything by an autistic author.

Has anyone autistic made a pamphlet of that style that would be suitable for doctors offices? That’s something that really ought to exist.

One is written by a woman with an autistic child and the other’s written by a guy who’s been teaching autistic children and giving lectures about autism for 20 years. Neither of them are autistic, no, but I’d say they definitely have more of an insight than 99% of the human race. I’ve personally found them more useful than anything else I’ve read. Calm it.

“Calm it”? Are you fucking serious? I was being kind the first time around, but you lost the right to be treated with kid gloves with this response.
In what other community is it okay for parents and professionals to be treated as equals compared to those actually (insert whatever you like here - women, gay, etc)? A mother’s book about what AUTISTIC KIDS THINK OR WANT YOU TO KNOW — good grief, if you don’t see the problem in that, you are being willfully obtuse. A non-autistic person is never more of an expert on what the condition feels like than an autistic person.
I will not be nice. Professionals and parents have fucked us all over at one time or another. There are tons of books out there that have autistic contributors or who are written by autistic people. Try Temple Grandin, the writings of Jim Sinclair, The Thinking Person’s Guide to Autism. There isn’t as much of a lack of materials now as there have been in prior decades.
And hey, feel free to browse the #actuallyautistic tag. You might learn something.

Yes, I am fucking serious. 
They’re useful materials alongside the experience I get from working with the kids. They form a very basic foundation of what it takes to support a child with autism. They are a resource that has been used by my department for years. If you don’t find them useful, then stop wasting your time and go and read something else. I’m not going to lose any sleep over it. In case this had totally slipped your mind; every autistic child is entirely different. Did you forget how broad the Autistic Spectrum is? Your mental representation of it seems to be as narrow as your mind. No, I cannot apply everything in these books to each child I work with, but it’s about what I’ve found works for me. What you think doesn’t work, might work for someone else. What I think works, might not work for you, but it works for me, my department, our kids and what we’re doing, and that is all that matters.
Calm yo’self.

Hey, guess what? I’m not ignorant. I’m fully aware of how broad the spectrum is, seeing how I am autistic, my daughter is autistic, and so is my son. We all have different needs, and that’s obvious. What may not be obvious to you, asshole allistic person who clearly cares little about talking to ACTUAL autistic people (and tyvm, but person-first language is not universally preferred by autistic people, so you may want to cut out the condescension coupled with the “person with autism” crap) and you know, listening to what we have to say. It may surprise you to know that I have actually read both books, and overall, I find them to be lacking. Which is why I offered alternatives, which if you were actually a good person, you’d spend a couple minutes looking into those options. But no, you are yet another fake ally who “cares about the poor wittle autistic kids” but refuses to listen to people who have actually been there. Who WERE those kids. So in essence, start listening or fuck off.

I am well aware of your ties with it, which I why I was so shocked at your attitude. I can accept responsibility for the person-first thing and apologise for that bit, that is fine. If you find these books to be lacking then that’s cool with me, but what we’re doing really is working for us. It is not you, in principal, that I should be listening to right now. It is the kids that I work with and their families. It is about what works for them as individuals, not what has previously worked or not worked for you or your children.
I can heed your advice and go and read those books, and if I can then I will, but none of this justifies your ludicrous behaviour. Whatever’s embittered you is rooted far deeper than this ‘wittle’ discussion, and I’m sorry that you feel that way, but there is no use taking that out on me because a stranger on the internet is not the one with whom you should be debating your personal issues.

I think you just need to read Derailing for Dummies.  Because you seriously have utilized most, if not all of the tactics there.
Please point out where I said that I spoke for any of your clients or their parents (and why are we counting their parents as super duper important and on the same level as your actual autistic clients, again?).  Realize that no, I don’t resemble your clients because I am an adult.  I don’t have the same needs, and my children don’t have the same needs as me.  Neither do the hundreds of autistic people I’ve interacted with — we are ALL different.  I’ve said that from the start, and if you believe any differently, I’m sorry, but you’re lacking in reading comprehension or something.
Here’s some more truth about “Not like my child” and other ways to be a total fail in relating to an autistic child. 
You don’t get to tone police me.  Because I have a right to be angry.  Your clients who are under 18 are likely not going to complain about their treatment now, and will possibly not be able to pinpoint the problem with feeling like they need to act neurotypical until much, much later in life.  Articulating why I felt uncomfortable in situations took a long time for me, and that’s common, I think, in autistic people who have been coerced and even abused into behaving more neurotypically.  I have a RIGHT to be angry.  And you are perpetuating more of the same behavior that I endured as a child, and guess what? I’m pissed off at people like you, who think that you have the right to tell me that my experiences matter only marginally, if at all, because I’m totally not your autistic clients.  Well, no, I’m not.  But I’m a lot more like them than you are, and I’m trying to fucking help you here. 
And funny, I always hear someone cry out “social justice” (wrt the other post between your two replies to me) when a marginalized person fights back against their oppressors.  Surprise, but apparently talking about my own experiences and disagreeing with your privileged, allistic standpoint is NOT actually social justice.  

“…we are ALL different.  I’ve said that from the start, and if you believe any differently, I’m sorry, but you’re lacking in reading comprehension or something.”
I’m could have SWORN this echoes something I’ve already mentioned… Ah yes, a few posts back: “…every autistic child [or adult] is entirely different.” Thought it sounded familiar. In fact, I think they might be exactly the same point…
I’m not trying to belittle your experiences, I’m telling you the only thing I can do here. I cannot go into work tomorrow and tell my boss: “We need to make a significant change because this lady on the internet told me to,” nor can I go “We need to make a significant change because this lady on the internet told me that it might affect them sometime in the future.” If you were the boss of a company, and an employee said that to you, don’t try and pretend like you’d take them seriously.
 I’m honestly not sure what you actually want me to do about it. I have told you time and time again that at the moment, what we are doing is working for our kids, and at the moment, that is what we will do. I cannot base what I do on what a couple of strangers on the internet have told me works for them. If you wanted to help, then don’t act like an asshole.

NOT OPPRESSING YOU IS SOOOO HARDDDDD
WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
NOT TRYING TO SILENCE YOU AND TELL YOU I DON&#8217;T HAVE TO LISTEN TO YOU BECAUSE FAMILIES AND CAREGIVERS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT IS SOOOO HARRRRDDDD
WAHHHHHHHHH
I CAN&#8217;T BASE MY WORK ON WHAT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE GOOD FOR AUTISTIC PEOPLE EVEN THOUGH HELPING AUTISTIC PEOPLE IS MY JOB BECAUSE WAHHHHHHHHHHHH
WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I CAN&#8217;T BELIEVE THAT YOU CRITICIZED THIS PICTURE I POSTED AND NEGATED MY GOOD PERSON POINTS IS SO MEAN YOU MEAN OLD AUTISTIC THIS PHOTOS WASN&#8217;T FOR YOU TO LOOK AT WITH YOUR FILTHY AUTISTIC EYES
WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
WHY DIDN&#8217;T YOU &#8220;CALM IT&#8221; WHEN I TOLD YOU TO &#8220;CALM IT&#8221;, ALL MY AUTISTIC CLIENTS DO BECAUSE THEY&#8217;RE CHILDREN I HAVE TRAINED TO OBEY ME
WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
CAN I TALK TO YOUR PARENTS YOUNG LADY
Seriously I shit on your and all that you stand for. Bite my bag.

blamequi:

goldenheartedrose:

blamequi:

goldenheartedrose:

blamequi:

goldenheartedrose:

blamequi:

josiahd:

goldenheartedrose:

blamequi:

If you are involved with Autism in any way, you NEED these. These have become my bibles.

Neither was written by an autistic person.

I doubt any autistic people were actually involved in the publication of either.

If you want a REAL guide that is actually helpful to autistic people? Read The Thinking Person’s Guide to Autism.  Or really anything by an autistic author.

Has anyone autistic made a pamphlet of that style that would be suitable for doctors offices? That’s something that really ought to exist.

One is written by a woman with an autistic child and the other’s written by a guy who’s been teaching autistic children and giving lectures about autism for 20 years. Neither of them are autistic, no, but I’d say they definitely have more of an insight than 99% of the human race. I’ve personally found them more useful than anything else I’ve read. Calm it.

“Calm it”? Are you fucking serious? I was being kind the first time around, but you lost the right to be treated with kid gloves with this response.

In what other community is it okay for parents and professionals to be treated as equals compared to those actually (insert whatever you like here - women, gay, etc)? A mother’s book about what AUTISTIC KIDS THINK OR WANT YOU TO KNOW — good grief, if you don’t see the problem in that, you are being willfully obtuse. A non-autistic person is never more of an expert on what the condition feels like than an autistic person.

I will not be nice. Professionals and parents have fucked us all over at one time or another. There are tons of books out there that have autistic contributors or who are written by autistic people. Try Temple Grandin, the writings of Jim Sinclair, The Thinking Person’s Guide to Autism. There isn’t as much of a lack of materials now as there have been in prior decades.

And hey, feel free to browse the #actuallyautistic tag. You might learn something.

Yes, I am fucking serious. 

They’re useful materials alongside the experience I get from working with the kids. They form a very basic foundation of what it takes to support a child with autism. They are a resource that has been used by my department for years. If you don’t find them useful, then stop wasting your time and go and read something else. I’m not going to lose any sleep over it. In case this had totally slipped your mind; every autistic child is entirely different. Did you forget how broad the Autistic Spectrum is? Your mental representation of it seems to be as narrow as your mind. No, I cannot apply everything in these books to each child I work with, but it’s about what I’ve found works for me. What you think doesn’t work, might work for someone else. What I think works, might not work for you, but it works for me, my department, our kids and what we’re doing, and that is all that matters.

Calm yo’self.

Hey, guess what? I’m not ignorant. I’m fully aware of how broad the spectrum is, seeing how I am autistic, my daughter is autistic, and so is my son. We all have different needs, and that’s obvious. What may not be obvious to you, asshole allistic person who clearly cares little about talking to ACTUAL autistic people (and tyvm, but person-first language is not universally preferred by autistic people, so you may want to cut out the condescension coupled with the “person with autism” crap) and you know, listening to what we have to say. It may surprise you to know that I have actually read both books, and overall, I find them to be lacking. Which is why I offered alternatives, which if you were actually a good person, you’d spend a couple minutes looking into those options. But no, you are yet another fake ally who “cares about the poor wittle autistic kids” but refuses to listen to people who have actually been there. Who WERE those kids. So in essence, start listening or fuck off.

I am well aware of your ties with it, which I why I was so shocked at your attitude. I can accept responsibility for the person-first thing and apologise for that bit, that is fine. If you find these books to be lacking then that’s cool with me, but what we’re doing really is working for us. It is not you, in principal, that I should be listening to right now. It is the kids that I work with and their families. It is about what works for them as individuals, not what has previously worked or not worked for you or your children.

I can heed your advice and go and read those books, and if I can then I will, but none of this justifies your ludicrous behaviour. Whatever’s embittered you is rooted far deeper than this ‘wittle’ discussion, and I’m sorry that you feel that way, but there is no use taking that out on me because a stranger on the internet is not the one with whom you should be debating your personal issues.

I think you just need to read Derailing for Dummies.  Because you seriously have utilized most, if not all of the tactics there.

Please point out where I said that I spoke for any of your clients or their parents (and why are we counting their parents as super duper important and on the same level as your actual autistic clients, again?).  Realize that no, I don’t resemble your clients because I am an adult.  I don’t have the same needs, and my children don’t have the same needs as me.  Neither do the hundreds of autistic people I’ve interacted with — we are ALL different.  I’ve said that from the start, and if you believe any differently, I’m sorry, but you’re lacking in reading comprehension or something.

Here’s some more truth about “Not like my child” and other ways to be a total fail in relating to an autistic child. 

You don’t get to tone police me.  Because I have a right to be angry.  Your clients who are under 18 are likely not going to complain about their treatment now, and will possibly not be able to pinpoint the problem with feeling like they need to act neurotypical until much, much later in life.  Articulating why I felt uncomfortable in situations took a long time for me, and that’s common, I think, in autistic people who have been coerced and even abused into behaving more neurotypically.  I have a RIGHT to be angry.  And you are perpetuating more of the same behavior that I endured as a child, and guess what? I’m pissed off at people like you, who think that you have the right to tell me that my experiences matter only marginally, if at all, because I’m totally not your autistic clients.  Well, no, I’m not.  But I’m a lot more like them than you are, and I’m trying to fucking help you here. 

And funny, I always hear someone cry out “social justice” (wrt the other post between your two replies to me) when a marginalized person fights back against their oppressors.  Surprise, but apparently talking about my own experiences and disagreeing with your privileged, allistic standpoint is NOT actually social justice.  

“…we are ALL different.  I’ve said that from the start, and if you believe any differently, I’m sorry, but you’re lacking in reading comprehension or something.”

I’m could have SWORN this echoes something I’ve already mentioned… Ah yes, a few posts back: “…every autistic child [or adult] is entirely different.” Thought it sounded familiar. In fact, I think they might be exactly the same point…

I’m not trying to belittle your experiences, I’m telling you the only thing I can do here. I cannot go into work tomorrow and tell my boss: “We need to make a significant change because this lady on the internet told me to,” nor can I go “We need to make a significant change because this lady on the internet told me that it might affect them sometime in the future.” If you were the boss of a company, and an employee said that to you, don’t try and pretend like you’d take them seriously.

I’m honestly not sure what you actually want me to do about it. I have told you time and time again that at the moment, what we are doing is working for our kids, and at the moment, that is what we will do. I cannot base what I do on what a couple of strangers on the internet have told me works for them. If you wanted to help, then don’t act like an asshole.

NOT OPPRESSING YOU IS SOOOO HARDDDDD

WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

NOT TRYING TO SILENCE YOU AND TELL YOU I DON’T HAVE TO LISTEN TO YOU BECAUSE FAMILIES AND CAREGIVERS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT IS SOOOO HARRRRDDDD

WAHHHHHHHHH

I CAN’T BASE MY WORK ON WHAT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE GOOD FOR AUTISTIC PEOPLE EVEN THOUGH HELPING AUTISTIC PEOPLE IS MY JOB BECAUSE WAHHHHHHHHHHHH

WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I CAN’T BELIEVE THAT YOU CRITICIZED THIS PICTURE I POSTED AND NEGATED MY GOOD PERSON POINTS IS SO MEAN YOU MEAN OLD AUTISTIC THIS PHOTOS WASN’T FOR YOU TO LOOK AT WITH YOUR FILTHY AUTISTIC EYES

WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

WHY DIDN’T YOU “CALM IT” WHEN I TOLD YOU TO “CALM IT”, ALL MY AUTISTIC CLIENTS DO BECAUSE THEY’RE CHILDREN I HAVE TRAINED TO OBEY ME

WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

CAN I TALK TO YOUR PARENTS YOUNG LADY

Seriously I shit on your and all that you stand for. Bite my bag.

(Source: trascendjamo, via trascendjamo)